Martin and Des spend some time assessing the outcomes of LIV's second season. Have they made real progress or is the initial novelty wearing off. A couple of players have undoubtedly played well but will we ever really see them again in the majors as their exemptions start to expire. With the Framework Agreement seemingly going to miss its' 31st December deal deadline and world events starting to impact discussions, do we really think 2024 sees a unified Tour incorporating the PIF? Certainly LIV is trying to live up to it's slogan "golf but louder" as we head into their offseason. Interact with the podcast via our Twitter/X portal @ITFOG_podcast